The prophets are more finessed and far more nuanced, as a result they have a much more narrow focus. It's not aimed at taking away from it's own prophet-6 market either. The Take5 is a really well thought out (dare I say) "Entry Level" Seq product, designed to give the brands signature 'flavour' and pack a punch at a very competitive price point. What the prophet5/10 reissue IS about, is absolutely NAILING the niche it already created 47 years ago.Īnd it's perfectly executed (personal opinion). ![]() The Take5 is far more prophet-6 than Prophet-5 or 10. Every (sensible) manufacturer is going to take advantage of leveraging their own intellectual property to develop new products. The Prophet is a completely different instrument to the Take5. I'd wager that the dissatisfaction comes primarily from not bonding with the gear you have. Maybe - but it's normal to feel like that if you aren't invested in the gear you are using. If you feel let down by not owning one, just pick one up! It's at a price that doesn't require a huge commitment. One great thing about the T5 is the price. Who knows, maybe Starsky Carr or someone will do such a comparison soon. I would love to hear a dry-sound comparison between the P5/10 and T5, not just of a patch matched sound but to hear that sound played across wide octave ranges. To a gigging musician looking for a portable board, the onboard FX are probably of critical importance, but part of the reason I bought a P10 was because of the core tone without any FX. ![]() Most of the demos I've heard so far of the T5 seem to use onboard FX. This is the whole reason that I cannot bring myself to buy a Pro3 - because I already have the filter types and core tone mostly covered in other synths. To your point, though I do feel there is definitely some degree of overlap in Dave's product line. But, the P6, as great as it is, didn't satisfy a lot of people that wanted that authentic vintage P5 sound. He was probably thinking the P6 would satisfy most people, because it can sound similar to a P5. To be honest, I think the perception you are expressing here is probably why Dave didn't do a reissue of the P5 for such a long period of time. And even if one is unable to distinguish the differences sonically, I don't see a reason to feel let down because the Rev2 can sound similar to a P5 as well, and was already offering much higher voice count, lots of modulation options, etc at a much lower price point (not to mention with an outstanding keybed) before the T5 was introduced. My point to all of this is that a Take 5 is not a Prophet 5 just because it has the same number of voices and one of the filters. If you played a note or two it sounded mostly like the same sound, but when you played outside a very narrow octave range it became obvious that the plugin could not sound the same. What's more, I reproduced the sound using Repro-1 (analog modeling plugin). Yet there was still a subtle difference in the AS-1 (probably the fact that it is gain staged for a different voice count) that is very noticable. I recently posted a comparison of a bass sound in the P6 forum of a patch-comparison between the Toraiz AS-1 and the P6, which actually have the exact same circuitry, supposedly. However, it's important to keep in perspective that just because a synth has the ability to sound the same under certain conditions, does not mean that it always sounds the same, or even that it sounds the same most of the time. Then there are videos with sound matching between the P6 and the P5 where you can hardly tell the difference. Then go to Alex Balls website where he demonstrates the P10 sounding indistinguishable from a Jupiter 8. in another video, he makes it sound like a Jupiter6. For proof of that, listen to Starsky Carr push a Super6 (which has digital oscillators) to sound like a P5. Most synthesizers have the abilty to sound like each other if that's what the designer is going for. Beyond that, there are many other factors that influence the sound of a synthesizer. ![]() Once again though, they are not the same oscillators.
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